New Space Marine rumors are hitting, and it looks like its going to be a fairly large. With the source chiming in for a September release, September 7th looks like the release date. Also inside are Grav weapons that wound against armour saves instead of toughness and much more.


One thing of note, from this rumor, it looks like a ltd edition cover of the Black Templars once again has us talking about Black Templar being wrapped up into the Space Marine codex. Lets hope that one does not turn out that way. We have heard from sources and Designers at events that no codices will be lost.

Other space marine rumors here, seem to validate a lot of what we have been hearing, The new codex will be geared towards Space Marines, and not Ultramarines, with options for altering the Chapter Tactics on the chapter that is being used. It will be interesting to see how that translates to supplements.

Please remember that these are rumors.

via Best_Pone oin Warseer
Up for release in September is the new Codex: Space Marines.

- There will be 7 Ltd Ed varients. 6 of these will be covers for First Founding chapters, whilst the 7th will have Black Templars on the cover.

- New weapon family: Grav weapons. I believe these wound against the armour save (so terminators would be wounded as if they had a toughness of 2).

- First Founding chapters will be getting a substantial section each to themselves, so hopefully this can be looked as as Codex: Space Marines instead of Codex: Ultramarines. This will also show in a rule called Chapter Tactics, for which the effects depend on the chapter being played.

- There is a new armour type that at first glance looks to be somewhere between a terminator and a dreadnought - looking more closely, it appears to go over the marine's power armour however.
- This new armour can be armed in 2 ways, depending on the user. The devastator version has either a bolter array or missile launchers mounted on the chest armour, whilst the gauntlets can be armed with heavy bolters, lascannons or grav cannons. The assault version has a bolter array or frag launchers mounted on the chest armour, with assault drills mounted on the gauntlets.

- There are 2 new AA tanks. One tank veterans will already be familiar with as the Hunter, armed an AA missile launcher. The other tank mounts 2 tri-barreled turrets instead.

- There is a new tactical squad. Lots of options as you'd expect, but of particular interest will probably be the grav pistol and grav rifle.

- A new plastic Sternguard veteran squad.

- A new plastic Vanguard veteran squad.

- New plastic characters: a captain, a librarian and a chaplain.

I have now seen the White Dwarf cover for September (always alleged). It has 3 of the new 'Dreadmarine' models on it, and from the fuzzy looks of it, they are look rather nice. They are dressed in blue for those that care, with not rounded shoulder pads. It does not look like any heavy weapons mounted on them, but the shot is very fuzzy and hard to tell.

Also we have several old concept photos coming around that are very much similar to what I have seen on the cover. From what I have seen on the White Dwarf cover, the 'Dreadmarine" models are much bulkier than these concept sketches below, but the look is very similar.

Just to be clear, there is no name Dreadmarine on the cover that I can read. So the units name is still unknown

These are the concept pics from 2004 Games Day.

Diese neuen Einheitentypen sind echt soooo unfluffig. Liebe Kyborgs oder was?

@ neue Einheiten: Kyborgs bei den Loyalen... naja ich weiß ja nicht.

Wir schimpfen doch nicht wir freuen uns total!
Die neuen Einheiten interessieren mich halt nicht. Wie auch schon beim Chaos kaufe ich davon eh nur was, wenn die zu den alten Einheiten gut gebalanced sind. Einen Heldrake habe ich mir deswegen nicht gekauft - der ist einfach zu gemein und Spielverderber - auch wenn man ihn kompetitiv mindestens 2x aufstellen muss, um gegen Eldar (und vieles andere) eine Chance zu haben.

Mich interessiert nur, ob ich einen Codex Black Templars bekomme oder nicht. Und ob ich mit dem neuen Space Marines Codex ein Regelset bekomme, mit dem ich BTs besser darstellen kann als der uralte Codex, den man gerade zur Verfügung hat.

Beispiel
Einzige Standardeinheit: Kreuzzugstrupp. 1 Space Marine OHNE Granaten für 16 (!!!) Punkte. Der schon bei 1 Verlust Moraltests machen muss und wegläuft ;)

One kit of three models, these can made into both Centurion Devastators or Assault Squads. Both of these variants come with more firepower than we have yet seen on any single model. They are absolutely the last thing the enemy will see.

Centurion Devastator Squad
These guys come with guns mounted into the sides of their chest plates, not to mention that they are carrying even more guns. Under both fists, they can carry Heavy Bolters, Lascannons, or Grav-Cannons. While their chests sports an array of either Hurricane Bolters or Missile Launcher. Whoa.... that is some amazing firepower.

Centurion Assault Squad
These guys come with Siege Drills on each arm, with either flamer or melta attachments. While this alone would be a tremendous amount of firepower, they too come with chest mounted Hurricane Bolters or Ironclad Assault Launcher. If you were curious which models you need to shoot at first, these qualify with extreme prejudice."

... und Monster wie ein Wraithknight sind ja unwahrscheinlich.